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Another month has passed so here is another divination offering, so if you have a question, I'll be happy to ask the coins using geomancy about it. That said, divination is like weather forecasting not a tablet of truth handed down from above, so take the advice I give you through the reading as such. The conditions that divination taps into are also in constant flux, the same as atmospheric pressure and the Moon. Any actions taken from the information of the readings are entirely the responsibility of the querent and do not replace nor pretend to be professional legal, medical or spiritual counseling.
Be sure to ask questions to which you want to know the answer. Also, divination doesn't always tell you about things you already know about, actually, it almost never does! My suggestion is that you question yourself, especially on things that make you flinch if any, and consider the points mentioned from a stance of possibility not of confirmation bias (or it's diametrical opposite, falsification bias).
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Date: 2022-11-29 07:14 am (UTC)If more background would be helpful, let me know and I can write something up (might take a little time, just want to make sure I get this question in before the deadline).
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Date: 2022-11-29 07:31 am (UTC)Hey there Recluse. Glad to see you again! I'll try to reply to you tomorrow.
Let me cast a reading first, interpret it and then let me read what you write about it.
There is no deadline here for posting questions as I don't have the time to sit down and dedicate a full day to only doing divinations, so really, you can just post them any time on the latest offering you find and I'll get back to you as time permits. (I need to figure out a way of letting people now their reading is ready)
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Date: 2022-12-21 12:57 am (UTC)Dear Gods I didn't post this?
I am sorry. I casted your reading two weeks ago and must've left the computer open or something.
I have both good and bad news. The good news is that the deity in question is indeed very much in contact with you. The bad news, is that you drew the same figure you drew for yourself last time, so it will take you a great deal of effort to cleanse the things that are not letting you see.
At this point, before proceeding, I am going to suggest you revise carefully our past interaction and draw themes from it.
On to this reading:
The Judge, meaning, the answer to the question is conjunction or joining. The "you" position was, again, Rubeus and the deity's position is Albus, a figure of white and blessing. No way of points, so the answer is exactly what it looks like. I can touch open the triplicities if you want to and we can discuss the reading and the situation more generally.
I would like to read what you've written at this point. Something strikes me, and that is the position of the figures that repeat themselves and also, the symmetries. Can you see them?
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Date: 2022-12-21 03:56 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2022-12-26 12:51 am (UTC)The Judge of the reading means the answer to your question, the Right Witness means yourself at the time of the reading and the Left Witness is the thing you are inquiring about. Repeating figures correlate the meanings of the positions of the figures. The fact that both figures concerning you and concerning the deity in question repeat themselves in both readings to me means a sort of emphasis on those meanings. In this case Coch as RW to me means that you are confused, obviously, about the issue but also that you are not seeing or recognizing something or can't at the moment, about the situation.
The advice seems to be to keep it at a distance close enough that you can bring in the blessings that such a relationship can be but also be patient with yourself as such things aren't easy. Fireworks don't necessarily happen unless there is previous contact.
Cyswllt means connection (and also conflict) and in general things that come in relationhip to it means the connection is there, which is good, but you might have to work at it.
Have you considered an altar to the deity in question?
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Date: 2022-12-27 06:30 pm (UTC)I see that the figure for me and the one for the question itself are opposite pairs, no idea if that's a good or bad thing. Also that the answer combines the two single active points of the witnesses, while leaving the common lines inactive. I don't know enough to know if it means anything at all, but it's what jumped out at me.
Not sure what to say about the advice. I know there is something I'm not getting, known that from the start. At this point, I don't think I will get it on my own, unfortunately my pleas for some assistance go unanswered (unless that's the answer itself). This situation has been ongoing with no end in sight for a number of years, I was patient in the beginning but I ran out of it. And as I said below, I was trying to make this the focus of my life like a spiritual calling, the massive gaping hole its absence has left is very hard to walk around, there really isn't any pushing it in the background.
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Date: 2022-12-23 01:27 am (UTC)But I promised some background, I’ll try to keep it short. I turned to religion at a certain point in my life after never caring about it before, I picked the god I was most attracted to from the pantheon I was most familiar with and started trying to form a connection. In a very short amount of time, I had one of those very intense experiences where he spoke directly to me over the course of a weekend.
He wanted me to do something, that could improve my life but was also a huge risk I’d be jumping blindly into while just trusting him that he would make it work out. I agreed to his proposal, took two weeks for a series of improbable events to create the opportunity and I jumped as I said I would. It did work out, shouldn’t have but did.
I was willing to treat that as a calling, let that connection be the center of my life. Figured gods don’t rearrange people’s lives for them for no reason, and I’m not used to getting nice things, spiritual callings have been built on less. But what I had to deal with was the NeoPagan community. The advice I found there was at best useless, but I didn’t realize it right away, made a series of not great choices that took years to fully extricate myself from. After much headache, those people were behind me, I was moving out of a city I hated, I’d found JMG online, I was ready to make a fresh start of this, do it right this time. But it fell apart instead.
I went to a local ritual for a holiday very early after moving here. Said deity invited himself to the ritual, he wasn’t on the guest list but some time in the 24 hours between my asking and arrival one of the organizers had a sudden inspiration and that changed. They called him, and it felt like I was hit in the chest. I have no idea what happened, it was near physical and overwhelming, but not bad. I left thinking it a good sign but later I could trace it as the moment communication shut down.
I used to have, like a sense of him in the back of my mind, like a line of communication even if nothing so dramatic came out of it again. It’s gone now. I have no idea if that was real, or just a product of my imagination, being warned of some early mistake made or self deception had me picking apart every memory so many times they no longer contain meaning. As bad as things were back then, I was doing better than I am now when all headache is coming from just one place. I couldn’t grow it the way I’d wanted to then, but it provided some benefit notable in its current absence.
I don’t know if this information helps with anything. Hope so, I am kind of tired of not knowing what happened, why or what I’m supposed to be doing about it.
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Date: 2022-12-26 01:04 am (UTC)Making things our own instead of taking with others have to say about it seems wise to me and also to stop divining about the same question, though detailing it might be a good idea. You can talk to gods through divination so you might even directly ask the deity a question like. What do you want me to know?
That sounds like a remarkably strong experience and would definitely consider that you also accomplished that through your own gnosis, with the help of the deity of course!
The NeoPagan community might be "the other place" we were talking about on the last chart and it not being a good one if I am not misremembering. I am sorry to hear that your relationship with it put a struggle in your spiritual path, that sounds hard.
With all that I would consider that there is still a relationship between the deity and you, but it doesn't have to be loud all the time. I would keep an altar with a statue of the deity as a thanks for intervening for you that time and to keep receiving the blessings, even if so minor in comparison.
Contact with gods is a real thing so I wouldn't worry too much about that and certainly don't make it a headache!
It sounds like you need to move on from the experience, and Coch, certainly suggests that. Some serious journaling, prayer to this and other deities and restarting your magical practice really do sounds like a great idea to overcome this. But do it in a balanced way, otherwise Coch becomes overthinking! So analyze your self-talk as well.
More generally it sounds like you are looking for something or missing to reflect on the act of looking itself. What is it?
The words of Dion Fortune are helpful here, in regards to also considering your own gnosis:
"It is the function of the Lesser Mysteries to enable each individual admitted to their teaching to attain the highest degree of development of which he is capable. In the Lesser Mysteries are unfolded the latent capacities of man; but in the Greater Mysteries are unfolded the hidden capacities of nature. The Lesser Mysteries deal with the subjective sphere, the Greater Mysteries with the objective sphere, and the one is the essential preliminary to the other. It is not possible for a man to command the elemental essences of nature unless he is a master of the elemental aspects of his own nature, for the powers within, if rebellious, will betray him to the powers without. Discipline must precede dominion. We operate upon that which is without by the corresponding aspect that is within. If the nature be not purified, it will make a mixed contact when it touches the Unseen. The operations of occultism are based upon the powers of the will and the imagination; both blind forces. Unless they are controlled and directed by a motive which has relation to the universe as a whole, no ultimate synthesis is possible. The personality must be universalized by the ideal at which it aims in order that it may function as an organized part of the cosmic whole. It is this urge towards universalization which is the ultimate hunger of the soul; the lesser self seeks to achieve it by drawing all things into itself in a rage of possession; the greater self seeks to achieve it by transcending the bounds of the self and becoming one with the universe. There are two union to be achieved: the self may become one with the universe by universal sympathy --this is the goal of the occultist; the self may also become one with the Creator of the universe by means of absolute devotion --this is the goal of the mystic. But the occultist, having achieved his own goal, has not yet passed from the manifested phenomenal aspect into the cosmic; and the mystic, having achieved his transcendent union, cannot hold it, but must lapse back into the phenomenal universe. The ultimate integration can only be achieved by means of universal sympathy and absolute devotion united in one nature. Into such an one all things are gathered by means of sympathy, and he is in his turn gathered into the All by means of devotion.
This is the ultimate aim of evolution for the manifested universe as a whole; and he who goes by the Way of Initiation does but anticipate evolution. It is the function of the Mysteries to assist the initiate to tread that section of the Path which has already been explored, but beyond lies a section that is known to no consciousness that is in a physical form; this section a man must tread alone with his Master; and beyond lies a section where a man is alone with his God.
Not in one incarnation can this be achieved. Three incarnations of absolute devotion without error may serve; but who is without error and how far must we be upon the Path before absolute devotion is attained? We cannot step out of the march of evolution with one foot and into the Cosmic Light with the other; it takes many steps to tread the Path, and some of the slip and have to be retraced. The difficulties are emphasized because many embark lightheartedly upon this great and terrible venture, but the fruits of it are not minimized, for they transcend all that eye can see or heart can dream. Neither do we have to wait until the end of the journey before we begin to reap. Day by day the manna fell during all the journey through the wilderness, though Egypt had to be abandoned and the Red Sea over-passed before it appeared.
So in this great journey of the soul to the Promised Land, which is the Way of Initiation, the safety of the human habitations has the be left, and the soul journeys houseless and alone in the wilderness and comes to the Red Sea; here it is that the weak turn back and return into slavery to make bricks without straw for which they receive no wages. But if the supreme test of the Red Sea is faced, the waves are parted by an unseen force and the traveller passes through dry-shod, with a wall of waters standing up on either hand; this is the test of faith, for by mundane law those waters should fall; it is only higher law that keeps them back.
Then, the test of being safely passed, though still in the wilderness, waters flow from the rock and manna falls daily, for though still in the world of sense, the traveller has come under the operation of a higher law."
--Esoteric Orders and their Work
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Date: 2022-12-27 09:39 pm (UTC)2. I continue divining on it because I've never gotten an answer. The others references, what they describe is entirely at odds with everything I remember. I know it's possible to deeply delude yourself about these things, I had a front row seat to that with the NeoPagans, but I would've had to get everything so massively wrong for such a long time for that to be the case. Maybe if all the diviners were in accord I'd had to believe it, but they're not. I can't divine for myself anymore, I've never gotten anything but nonsense or positive outcomes on doing something that turns out to be a very bad idea. I'm too close to this, or not connecting to anything outside of myself.
3. I suppose it's possible they were the other place. Usually readings like this pick up immediate surroundings, though, and these people are many years in the past now. But I am a recluse, so I guess it's got to put something in there, right?
4. The relationship was rarely loud, aside from a couple big moments. I don't know if I'm getting that across when I mention the lost mental connection, but I don't really have good words for this myself. It wasn't even something I ever noticed until I noticed it was gone. Just a background awareness of an open connection replaced by an empty void where it used to be. I remember someone I knew then saying that connection was something I could draw energy or strength from; she may have gotten that one right if absolutely nothing else, as that's another area of life that noticeably changed when this started.
5. Combining with your question above, of course I kept a shrine once (word choice reflects my initial learning, altars are working shrines are devotional), I kept one for a long time. It was dismantled a while back. Not when this began, years in, during the times when I thought mistaken identity was the problem. My partner suggested it, as a way to create a clean slate and maybe help my thoughts focus in the right direction. It didn't help, the table just sits collecting dust in the corner now. Its continued presence in the house through the beginning made no difference in how this went, so I don't think that's the problem. I threw nothing out, just tucked it away in boxes, I would put it back up if I had good reason to think he was still around or that it would make a difference; the way things stand right now, I don't think it would be a good idea, for me.
6. Some of this represents things I have been trying. The magical practice was initially supposed to finally help deepen this relationship and then I hoped it might break through whatever the problem is; it has not. With the added difficulty of having no idea where to point my devotion to. I've called many names, many names and it's been terrible because that's the opposite of how I operate, I like to focus all energy on a very few things not spread it far and wide. I'm not attracted to anything else so it's been more or less random, and none of it has stuck, it's not amounted to anything.
(Okay, for the sake of complete honesty there has been something in the last year, it's very weak but it produced real world omens which is more than anything else did. But it's very out of left field, and I'm not sure if it's a good idea to pursue for a number of reasons)
7. You know, I did spend time thinking about what it was I wanted after our last exchange. I've read that book quoted from, and I don't think I'm quite on either path. I'm a polytheist rather than a Christian, I wasn't looking to the creator of the universe (a figure that holds no real appeal) but a very particular deity. Similarities to that I'm sure, but also differences and I'm convinced it's a legitimate path that I hope will be explored and written on more in full if polytheism continues. I have no illusions about making much Mystery progress in this lifetime, prior to finding this community it wasn't really on my radar. The people I was attracted to initially were people with a very intense devotion to a single god or small group of them; no, those people in general didn't turn out so hot but that's beside the interest on my part, it can certainly be done right even if they didn't do it. It's something that keeps me on the margins on JMG's community as it's not well represented there. At the same time though, when he does talk about the mystic path, I wonder if it's not something I am hopelessly inadequate for in this incarnation in spite of an attraction to it.
I want that relationship back, it meant too much to me and I don't think I can bear losing it after everything. Barring that, I suppose I wanted some similar big event with a different deity that might restart things, not that I ever realized that while I was doing it. And yes, I know the odds of that ever happening again are very much against me, but I also understand where it comes from in me. And also, while I can't know how I would react unless it actually happened, thinking it over the last month, I'm not sure it would make any real difference if the first one was gone. I have stopped pursing that angle at least.
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Date: 2022-12-29 12:16 am (UTC)The second, I bet you're anticipating my answer here. What emotional life? Oh, you mean that old corpse under the floorboards, is that what its name was? As you have deduced, I live in my head and emotion is my weakest sense, made weaker by a childhood that required further detachment. Between my inherent nature and psychological trauma, I would have no idea how to answer, the concept is so alien. Also, if that's supposed to represent who the deity is in anyway it's either a misfire or further proof of a misunderstanding on my part. Or it's confirming what I said above about maybe being hopelessly inadequate for the job.
I can sense the journaling suggestion coming again. I have been doing that in some form or another for a very long time, and contemplating my life circumstances and internal reactions is a full time job. I'm badly damaged this life, if I didn't learn how it works I wouldn't function at all. I won't pretend perfect insight, but I'm much less ignorant than you may assume me to be. I know what fears and shame and whatnot this is all stepping into, it's old stuff, stuff that doesn't go away because it can't be refuted. If I seem as though trying not to accept the loss of this relationship and failure of everything I was trying, well it's because I know what's on the other side of that door and I don't want to go through that again if I don't have to. It would put me at about the limit of what I can tolerate in this life and change the way I see religion altogether. It would be nice to have a chance to fix things for once as opposed to ruin being inevitable, my error made can be right, some action of mine that can have a positive effect, I could do more than just close the door and walk away.
I'm confused that you say I'm still processing the first experience. That was old and settled. This is a second experience, that I did not anticipate on account of assumptions made about the first.
The spiritual became the core of everything automatically after that experience, I did think for a long time it could work, and much to my annoyance I was starting to find ways that it actually could before this happened (this is why I don't think that he is not suppressing it, I was not in a bad place when this happened, I had a decent plan moving forward, why would I do that to myself now as opposed to earlier? It doesn't make sense to me). It was motivation that I held onto and kept me going when I otherwise would've given up for half my life. I don't have a nonspiritual life (I do not know what I said that indicates many blessings, much less anything of equal weight). Recluse, you know. That's usually the sort of life well suited to focusing on spiritual matters because all else is gone. I have no idea what else someone would focus on; a family member in a similar situation watches 80s sitcoms and reads trashy romance novels, I suppose I could do that though I'd rather not. Hell, if I had something else to fall back on, I probably would've washed my hands of this mess long ago. I'd say that a change of that magnitude isn't going to happen, but I don't even think it is meant to, I think this is where I'm supposed to be for whatever reason that is. The spiritual life worked to some extent and nothing else ever did; the period of time early after that first experience when I tried not being a recluse was nothing but a disaster, returning to the hermitage and all that enables this to continue comes together with a surprising ease that suggests moving with the universe rather than against it. I don't understand it, but it is. Maybe the universe wants me dedicating to 80s sitcoms and trashy romance, or retro games and horror movies.
The relationship was the only source of long term motivation I had; short term sure (projects that take my attention away from this for a while - yes, I've done that, too, two different times) but not the sort that is required to make any real progress. I'd have been perfectly happy to continue picking at my damaged mental state alongside and as a part of working on that goal; I would've been happy picking up other skills alongside and as a part of working on that goal. All of that was more likely to happen with the connection as it was, and less likely to happen now. Another reason this doesn't make sense to me, even as I still think the problem is on his end rather than mine; if this was what he wanted to happen, this may have been the worst way to go about it, the kind I don't think a benevolent god would make if it wants to help. Journaling! I can hear in the distance :). This I'm quite familiar with, enough to manipulate it for short term goals, but if there is any way move it out of the neighborhood I've not found it. It rests atop a solid foundation and keeps finding reinforcements, its opposition lives in a little hut made of toothpicks and tissue paper.
As things stand, that scenario looks more like giving up. The goal you held onto and tried best you could with what you had to move toward for more than half your life will never happen, settle for something else instead. There may be plenty I could do, alongside and as a part of the original goal; but in its place? Long term? I really don't think there is anything that can serve as a replacement. I could see me finding something to do very short term, but long term petering out. Abandonment is more likely than a peaceful unfolding. Why was I not allowed to at least try once I found better information than I'd gotten before? Why was I cut off the second I had something that might actually work? Why would I think any other effort in this direction will end any other way? No, I'm not asking you this, I don't expect you to answer, and I know what my answers would be.
Of course at the end, you say go and get that relationship back. Keep poking at the void, keep my thumb on the metaphysical doorbell sooner or later he has to answer if just to shut me up (or try navigating the problems of the second one). That would be my choice, provided it is up to me (when there is someone else involved, it never is), that would go a long way toward improving my mental state, giving me a motive to keep going and a sense this work will be worth something someday. I'm glad you think the odds are good, I wish there was something I could point to that agreed with that.
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Date: 2022-12-29 01:51 am (UTC)The comment btw, I deleted yesterday before noticing you had replied. I wanted to check some other details about the chart.
I wasn't suggesting at all who the deity might be, which is why I asked about it. Whatever experiences you need to process, you clearly still need to process them to get where you want (or not want) to go, or anywhere really. No blessings? You had a great spiritual experience, and you are making it as though that's a bad thing, and if it's a bad thing then why not just let it go? If you are a recluse to dedicate yourself to the spiritual but you don't have any practices, then that's another contradiction. That's why there are two currents in the energy of your readings you want different opposite things, and when that happens, you get stuck. But you already know that.
I did say it wasn't an easy task and I didn't say you should do it, I said if that's what you want, this might happen with this deity or in a more general way. Is the connection to this deity still there? It seems to be, but there are also these things you have to work upon. I would be surprised if you didn't get something out of the set of lessons. Overall, it is entirely up to you, nor do I consider you ignorant, I just don't know you. If I suggested basic things is because it is a basic question to a situation you feel hopeless about. All I am doing is saying what the chart says and it is also what I would suggest, relax about the whole situation --you are not choosing your soul's path here-- work on healing your emotional life, move on and keep working on your spirituality. On the other hand, if you don't want to do something, don't do it, but then why bother asking? You need to change your passivity for activity. Overall, it seems like an unhealthy attitude to me to hold on to something you don't have while not doing something to get it and winding up on reasons and counter reasons as to why or why not things happened, which is represented in the opposing figures and the activity required by you, in particular with your emotions as represented in what needs to change to get the joining that you want.
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Date: 2022-12-29 10:50 pm (UTC)Original comment below:
Dear Recluse,
First of all, thank you for sharing all this with me! I am glad you've put thought into this, and for the engagement with the points we've discussed. It seems you've gotten a grasp on some threads to follow and upon inspection even finding some hope even if it seems little. It generally sounds to me, rereading our conversations, that you are still processing the first experience you had and the mourning when you felt it left you. Both of those things are important to do at our own pace, being patient and loving with ourselves, respectively. It sounds as though you also have many blessings in your life too, but you are not giving them the same weight, that seems a little unfair to me.
Searching for an explanation as to why things turned out one way or the other is a natural response, but people have noted that many times the issue really lies in the fear of accepting things as they happened to us and letting them go instead of there being some higher meaning to them. The way forward lies in attending to the results of the experiences more than understanding them.
The Dion Fortune passage was only to show the process of how long it takes for drastic things to happen and that it involves a process of cleansing, development, failure, growing etc.
Having said that, let's back up a little bit and keep both answers at hand. The other figures do matter but the triplicities and the way of points are advanced methods of interpretation that don't need to be explored in detail all the time. A reading can be spun almost as much as you want it to, I've had divinations that I keep coming back to over time for example, so the depth varies per question but it is important to keep the central ideas present. It is also layered, starting from the Judge, so it has the weight of the reading, that's the answer to the question plain; and then "the witnesses, active and inactive points, triplicities and way of points etc." refine or complement the answer, but it doesn't change it. By the way, I have no idea what the odd figure means, the software generates it, but it is not part of the methods of interpretation I know.
What do I need to get my spiritual life unstuck?
Ffordd, movement. Movement about what since I've tried so many different ways, you say. Taking into account witnesses: to get your spiritual life unstuck you need to get yourself unstuck and less passionate about the situation. The next chart doesn't suggest the deity in question is doing anything to block or discourage the connection. In this case, what the reading is telling you, is that movement means trying something different and that means to stop trying so hard, to glance at the self instead and start resolving our fears, regrets, shames etc. while we cultivate and take care of ourselves. If you make the spiritual the core of everything when you are confused about where to take it, you are putting yourself in an unhelpful situation! I suggest you keep and develop your non-spiritual life as a stable foundation you can be on while spirituality being something that enriches it.
What is needed to get your spiritual life unstuck is obtaining clarity, being patient and being careful with putting too many expectations into a very personal and broad aspect. Does that sound like a general answer? Well yes, because it is a general question! Really, I see no problem in divining about the situation but definitely recommend against asking the same question over and over. Instead, you can tackle it from different angles.
Does my connection to this deity remain?
Cyswllt, joining, and with the witnesses the answer is "yes, but..."
Regarding your observation of the reading. Yes, exactly!. Grasp that and you've grasped the gist of the whole reading. They are opposite pairs, and that symmetry is reflected in both your readings in subtler ways. It doesn't mean they are contradictory pairs, it means something needs to change for things to fit and effort for them to get moving. What do the active elements that join them mean to you?
My advice given the past two readings is that you need to relax, do something to attend to your emotions, such as the lectures of the Order of Spiritual Alchemy to get clarity, to pick up a simple thing you enjoy while making it spiritual and also doing activities that keep you motivated on the topic of spirituality and elaborate on that while avoiding nervous stimulants like coffee, alcohol or drugs. Praying to your deity might be a good idea and more generally too. I am a polytheist myself too, more leaning towards the occult path clearly but I've found mystical contemplation practices, like the ones from Evelyn Underhill books on contemplation. Do you like reading? Select a sacred text and meditate from it. Do you prefer active things? Develop your intuition with divination and active contemplation. What about manual things? You could learn to use herbs and stones to create elixirs and sachets and organizing spaces to change the energy and mood of yourself and your surroundings. The possibilities really are many and I am sure there's got to be one that works for you if you give yourself the chance. In the end it is you who needs to do these things and arrive at the truly meaningful answers (or questions!) that we are all looking for.
For what is worth, if you want the relationship with your deity back, go get it. At least the "divinatory odds" aren't bad. Difficult yes, but your chances of succeeding are good, and it suggests that if you make those changes, your spirituality will unfold peacefully. Doing the work really is worth it. Keep in mind that as with all relationships, if it didn't evolve, treasure those moments but pick it up from the beginning.
Questions: Do you know which deity it is? What does changing water, your emotional life from passive to active look like in your life, thus transforming Coch into Cyswllt?
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Date: 2022-11-29 04:15 pm (UTC)Q- I have a a tumultuous friendship with a former ex of mine. A large part of the reason I maintain the connection is due to my promises to help her and her kid, who I've grown to care a lot about. But the connection takes a lot out of me mentally, emotionally, and physically and really effects the life I want to have.
Q- Should I stay in this connection?
Thanks,
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Date: 2022-11-30 10:25 pm (UTC)I think I recall a previous divination about this. It would be interesting to see how things have evolved.
I didn't have much time yesterday but I'll reply to you as time permits.
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Date: 2022-12-21 02:42 am (UTC)Sorry Tamanous, that it took me a couple weeks to get back to you and thanks for your patience!
I haven't checked the previous reading but it would be interesting to discuss it in the further elaborations.
I was about to cast your reading, but I noticed that you don't have a question in there. Would you like me to rephrase it as: what is the guidance for this situation rather than what you should do or would you like to know something more specific? The problem with "should's" is that the best of outcomes depends on should, what? You need to provide the direction and the oracle returns the terrain.
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Date: 2022-12-21 02:49 am (UTC)Rephrased Q- How would my future be affected if I stay in this connection? Or perhaps stated as, how would my future be affected if I ended this connection?
Thanks,
Tamanous
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Date: 2022-12-29 11:20 pm (UTC)Here is your chart for the question: How would Tamanous future be affected if he ended this connection?
You drew Llawenydd, joy, for both Witnesses and Pobl for the Judge. Llawenydd is a favorable figure and since both witnesses are the same it seems you and the situation are in a good place so to speak, for example you caring about her son, but also that cutting the connection would be favorable and would benefit both parties. The Judge being Pobl, to me means it would be a very favorable situation overall, given that Pobl is favorable with favorable figures. It seems though that cutting the connection means, really cutting the connection, that's what Pobl as the Judge means to me, and perhaps also that you would be joined by other people as you cut the connection with her.
I also see Carchar in the fourth triplicity as the fourth daughter, the position of lover or close friend repeats itself in the situation! While I see Bendith Fawr (great blessing) in family and friends. To me this means that the situation really does have you as trapped as it makes you feel! I wonder if you family has encouraged you to cut this connection? Do you live by yourself?
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Date: 2022-12-30 03:22 am (UTC)I do live by myself. My brothers have both expressed reservation and concern about my involvement in this situation (same as some close friends of mine).
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Date: 2022-12-30 03:29 am (UTC)Why family and friends cutting contact? I mean with this relationship in particular.
Oh I see. When I mean joining, I meant joining you to take the place that this relationship is currently taking, say, more time to meet with friends and family since they seem to bring you good things.
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Date: 2022-12-30 03:41 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2022-12-30 03:49 am (UTC)Glad to hear it! Seems that it would be favorable if things turn out this way.
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Date: 2023-03-26 06:35 pm (UTC)I hope you're doing well! Just wanted to provide a follow up to your reading. I ended the relationship in question in late January. While emotionally difficult to start, I've been able to focus on a lot of healing inner work along with spending time with friends and family. All in all, your reading came out exactly as predicted. Thank you!
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Date: 2022-12-28 02:45 am (UTC)What is the most important thing that I need to know about my spiritually earthly life?
--Punky
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Date: 2022-12-30 12:29 am (UTC)Hey there Punky,
Here is the chart I casted for you:
It seems there will be some gain in your spiritual life, since that is the figure you drew for the Judge, Elw. The right witness represents yourself, greater blessing or Bendith Fawr, while on the thing you are asking about you drew Cyswllt or "joining". Since this is the left witness it means that you would gain quite a bit from doing whatever is inspiring you in your spritual life right now, like the kirya yoga practices you were mentioning.
This is a very favorable reading overall!
I see Pobl, people, repeating itself in the world and in co-workers or other people you might now. Do you know what that might be? What is your occupation if I may ask.
On the other hand in the position of situation we see Pen y Ddraig or Dragon's Head, which means you are at the beginning of something of which you will gain favorably.
Gynn or white repeats itself in the position of family and friends and close friends, which is favorable for beginnings. How does your relationship with your family (or a close friend) look like?
Beginnings
Date: 2022-12-30 01:28 am (UTC)2 relationships) my parents have already transitioned. Two of my sisters transitioned before they could retire. I am on speaking terms with my remaining sister even tho she is PMC. I have a good marriage, no children. I haven’t seen my few friends these past crazy years. I love them all.
3 beginnings) I have an older friend who is a yogi priest. We go “way back”. I asked her to be my guru recently. She has offered to initiate me as well. Between my cancer recovery and the past social craziness we have not moved forward on this.
She mentioned that she was struck that I would be involved in healing. I’m researching and growing herbals. It’s slow going.
Re: Beginnings
Date: 2022-12-30 03:39 am (UTC)It might be that, just that the world and other people to you mean just that, other people.
It seems your friend is what is being referred to, since that is the position of close friend.
I hope it keep going well for you!