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Another month has passed so here is another divination offering, so if you have a question, I'll be happy to ask the coins using geomancy about it. That said, divination is like weather forecasting not a tablet of truth handed down from above, so take the advice I give you through the reading as such. The conditions that divination taps into are also in constant flux, the same as atmospheric pressure and the Moon. Any actions taken from the information of the readings are entirely the responsibility of the querent and do not replace nor pretend to be professional legal, medical or spiritual counseling.

Be sure to ask questions to which you want to know the answer. Also, divination doesn't always tell you about things you already know about, actually, it almost never does! My suggestion is that you question yourself, especially on things that make you flinch if any, and consider the points mentioned from a stance of possibility not of confirmation bias (or it's diametrical opposite, falsification bias).

These offerings that I give are geared towards helping you by finding a way of incorporating the replies of the oracle into your own personal life so I am happy to discuss in the comments to compensate for the lack of visual contact to create rapport with your situation and thus provide more useful readings.

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Date: 2022-12-21 03:56 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thanks for this. I'll get something written, as well as any thoughts on this, tomorrow. For an opening comment, I should say that my only exposure to geomancy is having read the Celtic Golden Dawn once, years back. Prior to that, I'd never heard of it; made a mental note that it might be interesting to learn one day, but that day has yet to arrive. So, repeating figures and what they might mean, synchronicities, what the placements on the chart are, I'll have to ask you to spell some of that out for me, I really have no idea what I am looking at. If something strikes you, I would love to hear it.

Date: 2022-12-27 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Okay, so the positions of the other figures don't mean much, or maybe not much here? And what is that one down in the corner by itself?

I see that the figure for me and the one for the question itself are opposite pairs, no idea if that's a good or bad thing. Also that the answer combines the two single active points of the witnesses, while leaving the common lines inactive. I don't know enough to know if it means anything at all, but it's what jumped out at me.

Not sure what to say about the advice. I know there is something I'm not getting, known that from the start. At this point, I don't think I will get it on my own, unfortunately my pleas for some assistance go unanswered (unless that's the answer itself). This situation has been ongoing with no end in sight for a number of years, I was patient in the beginning but I ran out of it. And as I said below, I was trying to make this the focus of my life like a spiritual calling, the massive gaping hole its absence has left is very hard to walk around, there really isn't any pushing it in the background.

Date: 2022-12-23 01:27 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I’ve asked this question of diviners numerous times now, and you would be the very first to suggest the relationship is still there in any form. I’ve heard it was always a temporary arrangement that came to its natural end and it’s time to find something new, or that it never existed in the first place, or that I was completely mistaken about who I was dealing with. The previous diviner told me the connection had shattered but could be, not repaired but restarted - of course she also told me I never knew who I was dealing with and that was part of the problem. Gave me a specific name too, but I don’t know what to think about it, it doesn’t feel like it fits. All this to say, if I seem cautious in fully accepting the reading, that’s why; I’ve been told too many different things, none of it entirely matching what memories I have. I want you to be the last I ask this of, truly.

But I promised some background, I’ll try to keep it short. I turned to religion at a certain point in my life after never caring about it before, I picked the god I was most attracted to from the pantheon I was most familiar with and started trying to form a connection. In a very short amount of time, I had one of those very intense experiences where he spoke directly to me over the course of a weekend.

He wanted me to do something, that could improve my life but was also a huge risk I’d be jumping blindly into while just trusting him that he would make it work out. I agreed to his proposal, took two weeks for a series of improbable events to create the opportunity and I jumped as I said I would. It did work out, shouldn’t have but did.

I was willing to treat that as a calling, let that connection be the center of my life. Figured gods don’t rearrange people’s lives for them for no reason, and I’m not used to getting nice things, spiritual callings have been built on less. But what I had to deal with was the NeoPagan community. The advice I found there was at best useless, but I didn’t realize it right away, made a series of not great choices that took years to fully extricate myself from. After much headache, those people were behind me, I was moving out of a city I hated, I’d found JMG online, I was ready to make a fresh start of this, do it right this time. But it fell apart instead.

I went to a local ritual for a holiday very early after moving here. Said deity invited himself to the ritual, he wasn’t on the guest list but some time in the 24 hours between my asking and arrival one of the organizers had a sudden inspiration and that changed. They called him, and it felt like I was hit in the chest. I have no idea what happened, it was near physical and overwhelming, but not bad. I left thinking it a good sign but later I could trace it as the moment communication shut down.

I used to have, like a sense of him in the back of my mind, like a line of communication even if nothing so dramatic came out of it again. It’s gone now. I have no idea if that was real, or just a product of my imagination, being warned of some early mistake made or self deception had me picking apart every memory so many times they no longer contain meaning. As bad as things were back then, I was doing better than I am now when all headache is coming from just one place. I couldn’t grow it the way I’d wanted to then, but it provided some benefit notable in its current absence.

I don’t know if this information helps with anything. Hope so, I am kind of tired of not knowing what happened, why or what I’m supposed to be doing about it.

Date: 2022-12-27 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
1. This makes the reading make more sense? How so?

2. I continue divining on it because I've never gotten an answer. The others references, what they describe is entirely at odds with everything I remember. I know it's possible to deeply delude yourself about these things, I had a front row seat to that with the NeoPagans, but I would've had to get everything so massively wrong for such a long time for that to be the case. Maybe if all the diviners were in accord I'd had to believe it, but they're not. I can't divine for myself anymore, I've never gotten anything but nonsense or positive outcomes on doing something that turns out to be a very bad idea. I'm too close to this, or not connecting to anything outside of myself.

3. I suppose it's possible they were the other place. Usually readings like this pick up immediate surroundings, though, and these people are many years in the past now. But I am a recluse, so I guess it's got to put something in there, right?

4. The relationship was rarely loud, aside from a couple big moments. I don't know if I'm getting that across when I mention the lost mental connection, but I don't really have good words for this myself. It wasn't even something I ever noticed until I noticed it was gone. Just a background awareness of an open connection replaced by an empty void where it used to be. I remember someone I knew then saying that connection was something I could draw energy or strength from; she may have gotten that one right if absolutely nothing else, as that's another area of life that noticeably changed when this started.

5. Combining with your question above, of course I kept a shrine once (word choice reflects my initial learning, altars are working shrines are devotional), I kept one for a long time. It was dismantled a while back. Not when this began, years in, during the times when I thought mistaken identity was the problem. My partner suggested it, as a way to create a clean slate and maybe help my thoughts focus in the right direction. It didn't help, the table just sits collecting dust in the corner now. Its continued presence in the house through the beginning made no difference in how this went, so I don't think that's the problem. I threw nothing out, just tucked it away in boxes, I would put it back up if I had good reason to think he was still around or that it would make a difference; the way things stand right now, I don't think it would be a good idea, for me.

6. Some of this represents things I have been trying. The magical practice was initially supposed to finally help deepen this relationship and then I hoped it might break through whatever the problem is; it has not. With the added difficulty of having no idea where to point my devotion to. I've called many names, many names and it's been terrible because that's the opposite of how I operate, I like to focus all energy on a very few things not spread it far and wide. I'm not attracted to anything else so it's been more or less random, and none of it has stuck, it's not amounted to anything.

(Okay, for the sake of complete honesty there has been something in the last year, it's very weak but it produced real world omens which is more than anything else did. But it's very out of left field, and I'm not sure if it's a good idea to pursue for a number of reasons)

7. You know, I did spend time thinking about what it was I wanted after our last exchange. I've read that book quoted from, and I don't think I'm quite on either path. I'm a polytheist rather than a Christian, I wasn't looking to the creator of the universe (a figure that holds no real appeal) but a very particular deity. Similarities to that I'm sure, but also differences and I'm convinced it's a legitimate path that I hope will be explored and written on more in full if polytheism continues. I have no illusions about making much Mystery progress in this lifetime, prior to finding this community it wasn't really on my radar. The people I was attracted to initially were people with a very intense devotion to a single god or small group of them; no, those people in general didn't turn out so hot but that's beside the interest on my part, it can certainly be done right even if they didn't do it. It's something that keeps me on the margins on JMG's community as it's not well represented there. At the same time though, when he does talk about the mystic path, I wonder if it's not something I am hopelessly inadequate for in this incarnation in spite of an attraction to it.

I want that relationship back, it meant too much to me and I don't think I can bear losing it after everything. Barring that, I suppose I wanted some similar big event with a different deity that might restart things, not that I ever realized that while I was doing it. And yes, I know the odds of that ever happening again are very much against me, but I also understand where it comes from in me. And also, while I can't know how I would react unless it actually happened, thinking it over the last month, I'm not sure it would make any real difference if the first one was gone. I have stopped pursing that angle at least.
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Date: 2022-12-29 12:16 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'll answer your questions first. I thought I knew which deity it was, I had always called a particular name. But some people did suggest that I actually never knew. And that was a possibility I considered myself before they brought it up, there are a few things that would make a different kind of sense if that were the case, but probably doesn't require it. So the answer is yes, and no. I've been avoiding the name mostly because I didn't think mentioning it would make any difference, so pursue anonymity. (though it just occurred to me I quickly referenced a second one, if that's what you meant then yes)

The second, I bet you're anticipating my answer here. What emotional life? Oh, you mean that old corpse under the floorboards, is that what its name was? As you have deduced, I live in my head and emotion is my weakest sense, made weaker by a childhood that required further detachment. Between my inherent nature and psychological trauma, I would have no idea how to answer, the concept is so alien. Also, if that's supposed to represent who the deity is in anyway it's either a misfire or further proof of a misunderstanding on my part. Or it's confirming what I said above about maybe being hopelessly inadequate for the job.

I can sense the journaling suggestion coming again. I have been doing that in some form or another for a very long time, and contemplating my life circumstances and internal reactions is a full time job. I'm badly damaged this life, if I didn't learn how it works I wouldn't function at all. I won't pretend perfect insight, but I'm much less ignorant than you may assume me to be. I know what fears and shame and whatnot this is all stepping into, it's old stuff, stuff that doesn't go away because it can't be refuted. If I seem as though trying not to accept the loss of this relationship and failure of everything I was trying, well it's because I know what's on the other side of that door and I don't want to go through that again if I don't have to. It would put me at about the limit of what I can tolerate in this life and change the way I see religion altogether. It would be nice to have a chance to fix things for once as opposed to ruin being inevitable, my error made can be right, some action of mine that can have a positive effect, I could do more than just close the door and walk away.

I'm confused that you say I'm still processing the first experience. That was old and settled. This is a second experience, that I did not anticipate on account of assumptions made about the first.

The spiritual became the core of everything automatically after that experience, I did think for a long time it could work, and much to my annoyance I was starting to find ways that it actually could before this happened (this is why I don't think that he is not suppressing it, I was not in a bad place when this happened, I had a decent plan moving forward, why would I do that to myself now as opposed to earlier? It doesn't make sense to me). It was motivation that I held onto and kept me going when I otherwise would've given up for half my life. I don't have a nonspiritual life (I do not know what I said that indicates many blessings, much less anything of equal weight). Recluse, you know. That's usually the sort of life well suited to focusing on spiritual matters because all else is gone. I have no idea what else someone would focus on; a family member in a similar situation watches 80s sitcoms and reads trashy romance novels, I suppose I could do that though I'd rather not. Hell, if I had something else to fall back on, I probably would've washed my hands of this mess long ago. I'd say that a change of that magnitude isn't going to happen, but I don't even think it is meant to, I think this is where I'm supposed to be for whatever reason that is. The spiritual life worked to some extent and nothing else ever did; the period of time early after that first experience when I tried not being a recluse was nothing but a disaster, returning to the hermitage and all that enables this to continue comes together with a surprising ease that suggests moving with the universe rather than against it. I don't understand it, but it is. Maybe the universe wants me dedicating to 80s sitcoms and trashy romance, or retro games and horror movies.

The relationship was the only source of long term motivation I had; short term sure (projects that take my attention away from this for a while - yes, I've done that, too, two different times) but not the sort that is required to make any real progress. I'd have been perfectly happy to continue picking at my damaged mental state alongside and as a part of working on that goal; I would've been happy picking up other skills alongside and as a part of working on that goal. All of that was more likely to happen with the connection as it was, and less likely to happen now. Another reason this doesn't make sense to me, even as I still think the problem is on his end rather than mine; if this was what he wanted to happen, this may have been the worst way to go about it, the kind I don't think a benevolent god would make if it wants to help. Journaling! I can hear in the distance :). This I'm quite familiar with, enough to manipulate it for short term goals, but if there is any way move it out of the neighborhood I've not found it. It rests atop a solid foundation and keeps finding reinforcements, its opposition lives in a little hut made of toothpicks and tissue paper.

As things stand, that scenario looks more like giving up. The goal you held onto and tried best you could with what you had to move toward for more than half your life will never happen, settle for something else instead. There may be plenty I could do, alongside and as a part of the original goal; but in its place? Long term? I really don't think there is anything that can serve as a replacement. I could see me finding something to do very short term, but long term petering out. Abandonment is more likely than a peaceful unfolding. Why was I not allowed to at least try once I found better information than I'd gotten before? Why was I cut off the second I had something that might actually work? Why would I think any other effort in this direction will end any other way? No, I'm not asking you this, I don't expect you to answer, and I know what my answers would be.

Of course at the end, you say go and get that relationship back. Keep poking at the void, keep my thumb on the metaphysical doorbell sooner or later he has to answer if just to shut me up (or try navigating the problems of the second one). That would be my choice, provided it is up to me (when there is someone else involved, it never is), that would go a long way toward improving my mental state, giving me a motive to keep going and a sense this work will be worth something someday. I'm glad you think the odds are good, I wish there was something I could point to that agreed with that.

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